Wednesday, February 8, 2012

SOF Build: Launch day


It was an exciting drive to the put in at Bay Bull's. Protected from the winds I figured this would be one of the best places to bring my kayak to her sea trials. 


Had a good chat at the wharf with a older gentleman. Apparently Stan Cook who runs a kayak guide had just departed...maybe I could land a job! And who wouldn't want a guy who builds his own kayaks working for them?


They kayak rolled like a dream. Staying upright however was 99% impossible. The closest thing I came to a "paddle" was sculling bracing and rolling....over and over. No matter what I did she was going over. Primary stability was non existent...secondary stability....none. After about 10 minutes of trying to keep the kayak upright and spending most of that time underwater...I pulled the skirt and floated on my back staring up at the thick clouds rolling by. The world deafened by the sound of water in my ears. Disappointment. I couldn't help but think back to a comment on QajaqUSA: 

"That is some extreme deep V...Be ready to roll.. that hull shape is going to have some squirrley pri stability be Safe..."

Only one thing left to do.....


The SOF build was a flop. A huge one.  Now she's back home and scrapped for future projects.  

I do plan on another attempt. Just not right yet. I've been using the boat building as a bit of an avoidance to the cold windy waters. 

The poly Valley is now warming up in the living room for tomorrow morning.

...it's time to get back exploring.

31 comments:

  1. Sorry to hear about the probs, but boy did I laugh at the video!! ;)

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  2. haha good to hear...I was laughing myself! All in good fun!

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  3. Thats how you gain experience, dont give up just yet. Looking on the bright side, you built a really tough kayak , looks indestructable to me, now with a bit of fine tuning you can get one to stay upright. great video.

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    1. Thanks Steve. I agree! It;s all experience. I remember seeing a interview with a old skipper here in Newfoundland who built boats. they asked him how he learned...he replied "you only go out the harbour sideways in a bad boat once before get started on a better one!"

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  4. OK Lee, I'm on to you. All this time you were leading us all on to believing that the purpose of this SOF project was to build a classic kayak that you would paddle off in on the North Atlantic waters. And here, after all, it was really about a movie you were making - a shocking melodrama geared to ripping our sea-kayaking hearts out. Well, my friend, you succeeded after all. An Academy Award performance! Bravo! Now I need to watch it again, but this time with some kleenex! :) Duncan.
    PS Steve is right.

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    1. Hahaha I should of taken that angle!! I buikt her tough...now to look at boat design.

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  5. Viewed from the hull side on end like from Saturday's post, it does appear to be a rather sharp v. Live and learn, eh.

    Don't destroy it, use it as a wall hanging or something. Or maybe as a prank kayak for "friends". Or sell it to someone as a decoration.

    Glad you are laughing. Don't let it get you down.
    Cheers,
    Bryan

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    1. I never thought about it I shoulda sawed her in half and put each 8 foot pieces in the corner of my den as shelf's! Too late now...she's scrapped ready to be turned into deck beams etc later!

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  6. Hi Lee,

    The build wasn't a flop! OK, so the hull shape wasn't right for stability, but look at the positives mate:

    You learned loads about the construction process and how to do things smoothly

    You actually made your own boat - I couldn't do that; I'm just not good enough with my hands

    That boat was way stonger than it looked, which has got to give you a good feeling when you're paddling a self build with a more forgiving hull form.

    A friend of mine has a saying - "Try it, you can't learn less"

    Kind Regards

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    1. Cheer's Ian I couldn't agree more. I was very surprised to see just how tough it really was. it will give me more confidence in the next kayaks use on the brine. try it you can't learn less...LOVE IT!

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  7. I enjoyed the video - should off dropped it off a building or something to really show how tough the SOF's really are. I could just imagine you saying "f??king piece of sh%t" as you tossed it around... Perhaps try a Disko Bay next time...

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    1. haha I was really hoping the roads crews would come to fire up the dumptruck!!The disko bay looks very interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing the measurements and maybe using the dimensions as forms to line her all up and build traditional.

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  8. ouch! nonetheless you made me laugh. said that, just a few words come to mind: Lee, do not look back in anger ;)

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    1. Glad to hear Gio! I figured I might as well make something outta it. If I just went home sulking it would have made for a boring post!!

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  9. Gerard said Tuesday night he was going to Bay Bulls and I see he made it. He's a guide for The Outfitters. You'd have enjoyed it had you been able to meet up with him.

    Too bad on the kayak thing. The pool would have maybe made it a bit more of a fun experience. Would have like to sit in it myself for a bit.

    Tony :-)

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    1. Ah thats who it was. i had the pleasure of buying my float bags off him down to the outfitters a couple days back. Seemed like a stand up guy.

      I'm glad my embarrassment was only shared with me and the wharfs...god I woulda crawled in a hole at the pool! haha

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  10. I don't understand - wasn't this built using Chris Cunningham's plans? I didn't think it would be that extreme - or are his plans open to a lot of interpretation, i.e., variations, whether intentional or not, by the builder?

    This sort of reminds me of my first SOF that I built when I was 13. I had no plans or kayaking experience whatsoever, so my boat had no primamry stability either. I did manage to paddle it a little bit but it, too, was quickly and permanently removed from the water.

    In hindsight, I guess it's better to find out the stability issue right from the start, i,.e. along side in calm water, rather than in a situation where a sudden change in weather makes you find out the hard way!!

    Live and learn, as they say. Better luck on the next one.

    Sean

    P.s. That's Gerard Keough's car next to your's in the first picture. Gerard runs the tours out of Bay Bulls for the Outfitters. i wonder if the old man got him confused with Stan Cook - who operates out of Cape Broyle?

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    1. I used the book and a little liberty in the ribs and chines. There was a few things bugging me that I had wished I had done differently anyway...so on to the next one! (After a little hiatus of course!)

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  11. “A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner”

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  12. Lee:

    Remember, there was a young man from Labrador who built his own SOF this summer and paddled 300km of the Labrador Coast solo? I just went and checked out pictures of his boat because I remember it being deep v'ed as well. His was 23" wide, I wonder if that made the difference in stability?

    Here's a link to the pictures on Facebook- hope it works:
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.10150292790344795.356220.568184794&type=3

    Sean

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    1. I think Noahs big difference was chine placement. I got some studying to do but from what I've seen so far my keel and chines was the issue. And the ribs.

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    2. basically everything below the gunwales lol

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  13. I loved that video! Not trying to rub salt in the wound, but it was great to see it getting tossed around. Let me know when your ready to cut more ribs, I've got all kinds of time to help now!

    Rob

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    1. perfect buddy! I'm off to trinity bay tomorrow (weather dependant) and will be bringing back some fresh spruce!!

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  14. Buddy... I`m not laughing at you so much as your boat throwing. That killed me man. Best thing is your next build will be that much better. And you should keep it. If you were in Geary NB, that would make one hell of a flower pot in the front yard. Arn b`y?

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  15. Just like dating your cousin in Geary. You gotta toss em around and get new ones on occasion haha. It's been a great learning experience...hopefully the next one's toughness will be found out the old fashion way; paddling in surf and rocks!!

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  16. We're planning to head out tomorrow as well. Dont think my body is tempered for the weather to go kayaking, but I'd love to get a snowshoe in. If it wasnt so long since I've spent normal time with family, I'd say we should go camping.
    Maybe another week!

    Rob

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  17. Well make like cement and harden up! (I say this cause I totally wrecked my ankle today....I currently have frozen spinach on it)No showshoeing for me unfortunately

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  18. Lee, this was my first SOF and it was too narrow, (19") and too much freeboard. I hated this boat! Not only was it poorly designed but I used epoxy everywhere, thinking it was the Shit! I could not use it as material for my next boat because of the epoxy so I took a chance and did a re do.
    I removed the skin and split the deck beams, spreading the beam to almost 22". Not only did this widen the boat but also created sheer and rocker.
    I'm now very happy with this boat! All of this is a learning thing, your next boat will be much better.
    The first pics. the deck beams are cut and spread. The second pics. the frame is complete. The third pics. is my completed boat. Fourth is on the coast


    Tony

    http://picasaweb.google.com/johnsontjjohnson/SOFRedo?authkey=Gv1sRgCKORzqCJ3tWJjgE#

    http://picasaweb.google.com/johnsontjjohnson/SOFFrameRedoComplete?authkey=Gv1sRgCOWI55eEv4vjCA#

    http://picasaweb.google.com/johnsontjjohnson/KayakRedoCompleted?authkey=Gv1sRgCMHwxo2ZhNOvUg#

    http://picasaweb.google.com/johnsontjjohnson/20100221JieSOutTheGateTrip?authkey=Gv1sRgCLCylZTBsK30Jg#

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  19. Thanks a bunch Tony. it's nice to see other people with similar results. Funny thing about the internet is you rarely read of failures misadventures or set backs! =0)

    Beautiful boat and beautiful coast Tony. Thanks for sharing....its nice to see the success at the end of it all!

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